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Grown-up conversations are not the current fashion.

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They sure aren’t

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One pre-requisite for having conversations - grown-up ones for preference, but really any kind - with people is to talk to them about things that they actually care about.

It feels like this is a knack that many leftists and liberals have lost and are yet to recover (unwarranted generalisation?), and that some of the worst people in the world have learned.

https://ketelby.blogspot.com/2020/02/two-cheers-for-the-EU.html

The latest edition of 'Our Opinions Are Correct' podcast, hosted by Annalee Newitz and Charlie Jane Anders in which Peter Pomerantsev talks about his book, 'How to Win a Propaganda War' also speaks to this.

https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/shownotes/2024/12/12/episode-166-manufacturing-loneliness

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Hein de Haas's 'How Migration Really Works: A Factful Guide to the Most Divisive Issue in Politics' - on my mental 'to-read' pile - feels like a contribution to grown-up conversations on this.

I've heard him speak and I feel like no-one - left or right, unless really well-informed on this topic to quite a granular level - would've left that hall without at least one of their cherished assumptions or myths having been challenged.

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Great recommendation. Will read.

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Love it!

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Another great piece! A Xmas present for you: https://youtu.be/k9jTonnpRo0?si=pAYPZ4bFYmIIsmus

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Better than the original!

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